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More on the gender balance

At a quick glance, more male writers get reprinted in mags too.

Now, it couldn't possibly be that editors are sexist, or more disposed to male writing. So ... maybe women really do write less. Or less well.

That must be it.


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purrdence
Jan. 11th, 2009 10:08 am (UTC)
In the general slushing/ deciding process, is the author's name attacted to the submission?
girliejones
Jan. 11th, 2009 10:12 am (UTC)
It depends on the outlet. But the bit you can't argue with is, at TPP we do not blind slush. At TPP we publish *at least* 50% females, usually more.

Except for our novellas. I'm going to pull out our sub stats in a sec.
ex_benpayne119
Jan. 11th, 2009 10:25 am (UTC)
Fwiw, stories published at Dog versus Sandwich tallied Male: 17, Female: 17.

That's without trying. I was happy with that...
girliejones
Jan. 11th, 2009 10:40 am (UTC)
I think all the work we have coedited, we haven't tried, and we've come up with even or better.

Can I add your stats to the pile? FWIW you're a male editor in a minority of 1 so far.
ex_benpayne119
Jan. 11th, 2009 11:12 am (UTC)
Sure you can.
girliejones
Jan. 11th, 2009 11:12 am (UTC)
Thanks
ex_benpayne119
Jan. 11th, 2009 10:25 am (UTC)
In any case, why be depressed? You're an editor, not a writer! This sort of stat should scream: OPPORTUNITY!

:-D
girliejones
Jan. 11th, 2009 10:42 am (UTC)
:-D

True. Although ... maybe women don't read these kind of markets? Maybe none of it really matters and I should just move onto paranormal romance or historical erotica or something?

ex_benpayne119
Jan. 11th, 2009 11:14 am (UTC)
Well I think you should publish what interests you, and if there are enough readers that agree that that's interesting, then you'll be successful.

girliejones
Jan. 11th, 2009 11:16 am (UTC)
Yeah, I guess.
ex_benpayne119
Jan. 11th, 2009 11:18 am (UTC)
Not that I'm dissing historical erotica or anything...
girliejones
Jan. 11th, 2009 11:19 am (UTC)
no. could be good *shrug*
ex_benpayne119
Jan. 11th, 2009 11:30 am (UTC)
Hitler and Stalin gettin it awn. That sorta thing?
girliejones
Jan. 11th, 2009 11:31 am (UTC)
hmmm .... maybe not
callistra
Jan. 11th, 2009 11:23 am (UTC)
I'm writing paranormal erotica dammit!
Poo, missed out again!
LOL
cassiphone
Jan. 11th, 2009 12:02 pm (UTC)
I think the fact that Shiny doesn't really have to try to get a strong female heavy author mix goes to show that all the worlds within SF are different, with different gender balances and issues. If anything in YA the balance has gone the other way, with not enough male representation in authors and protagonists...

But I think without more balance, the SF and Fantasy short fiction scene will die faster, and it's those newer, better balanced markets that have some of the more innovative work generally.
girliejones
Jan. 11th, 2009 12:18 pm (UTC)
The Shiny stats will be interesting and I will publish them because I think they will show more men submit but we publish more women and that the percentage didn't suddenly increase after Ben left.
cassiphone
Jan. 11th, 2009 12:54 pm (UTC)
Yeah but a lot of that comes down to - we get more men submitting stories that are not YA or not suitable for the magazine, right?

Heh one of the recurring arguments i've seen is that men are more confident as submitting authors and more likely to send out their crap stories before they're fully ready... and if you throw enough crap at the walls....

ok it's totally too late for me to be up if I'm resorting to that...
girliejones
Jan. 11th, 2009 12:58 pm (UTC)
Heh. But that's the only stats we have. And they would be the same that everyone else is using.

You know, one guy sent us a blank email the other day with 22 stories attached. I sent a form rejection and said we don;t take multiple subs and the response but was "Try this" with one story attached. Are we going to work through all 22 like this? What are the chances this guy is remotely at the level I want to buy stories at?
mariness
Jan. 12th, 2009 03:51 am (UTC)
No, we do.

I'm not sure how to address the writing problem, though.
dedbutdrmng
Jan. 11th, 2009 06:14 pm (UTC)
This post made me realise I don't usually mention what sex I am in my author Bio's. As I only ever use my initials editors can take it either way.
girliejones
Jan. 12th, 2009 12:13 am (UTC)
That assumes that editors are affected by the gender of the author which I don't actually think is my argument - I'm not arguing men actively discriminate against female authors.
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